I’m dreaming of a Bill White Christmas…

Just like those ones I used to know (ho ho ho ho…)

More tales of the Strange from the Home of the Brave and the Land of the Free, y’all – cos those wacky funsters over at Citizens Against Hate have been playing the sort of fun game that EVERYBODY can enjoy: Messing with Nazi heads until they explode.

And boy… the explosions! The explosions!

It’s all very complicated, and we’ll try and give you the whole story (which may well have changed by the time we get to the end), but here’s a quick summary if you’re late for your early morning ZOG briefing.

*The US-based National Socialist Movement’s most famous figure, Bill White, has been given the boot.
*And the CHAIRMAN and FOUNDER, Clifford Herrington, has been THROWN OUT ON HIS ARSE.

It all started one bright sunny day when CAH found out that the wife of Clifford Herrington was a Satanist, and had been using an NSM post office box for her other group: Joy Of Satan.

So CAH told Hal Turner. Turner is a far right internet radio host in the states who does a lot of shows with the NSM. Trouble is, Turner is Christian Identity (CI): A virulently racist psuedo-religion which is Christian in name only.

And if there’s one thing that Turner hates more than Jews, Asians, Africans, Mexicans, or anyone to the left of Goebbels, it’s Satanists!

So Turner says to the NSM: Right, you devil-worshipping freaks – until you deal with this Satan crap, you can forget about free air time on my station.

And Bill White, in the way that only Bill White can, fired this back on his website:

“Bergen, New Jersey — Hal Turner, short of cash as always, has pulled a publicity stunt to get the NSM to pay more for the air time they use on his network.

“On July 3, Turner posted a statement denouncing the wife of National Socialist Movement Chairman Clifford Herrington for alleged “Satanism”. “Herrington’s wife holds a post-graduate degree in ancient religions and has been involved in a group advocating Aryan-pagan worship in opposition to Christianity. Her religious views are very similar to the Radical Traditionalism and Aryan Paganism shared by most of the National Socialist Movement’s leadership.

“Turner based his actions on a recent radio broadcast by an anti-racist group, but has been needing additional cash to maintain his radio network for several months, and has been negotiating for additional fees from the NSM for several weeks.�

Turner responded by sending this message to the Commander of the NSM, Jeff Schoep:


It is with regret that I inform you that I will no longer accept NSM audio shows on Turner Radio Network effective immediately.

I am taking this action as a direct result of a story published by Bill White which falsely accuses me of engaging in a “publicity stunt” over the satan worship by Chairman Herrington’s wife, falsely accusing me of using that publicity stunt in an effort to renegotiate money paid to me by NSM and further falsely states that I have been trying to renegotiate such fees “for weeks.”

For the record, NSM has not paid a single cent to me in months and I have not asked for any money – never mind MORE money – in months.

My “Statement” about the Chairman’s wife was true in every regard. My distancing myself was the right thing for me to do so as to preserve my self respect and the religious ideals I adhere to personally. I performed that distancing in a truthful and honorable way hoping to preserve the relationship with NSM.

The Chairman choosing to share the P.O. Box with his wife’s satanic cult was bad judgment. What Bill White has done is not only bad judgment but dishonorable. Rubbing salt in this wound is the fact that Bill’s story came minutes after he personally spoke to me and mentioned nothing about any such smear attack against me. I will not put up with this type of bad behavior.

I wish you and the NSM good luck in the future.
Hal Turner

He also published this statement on his website:

Bill White Single-Handedly Wrecks Turner-NSM Relationship
NSM Radio Show Terminated from Network
He didn’t have to lie to save face. We could have worked things out. He blew it. What a shame.

The damage being done to NSM by this man is serious. First, his online ranting caused NSM Members to be brutally beaten at a pro-white event by offended attendees, now he’s wrecked the NSM radio show on the biggest pro-white media outlet in the world. How much more damage is Bill going to be allowed to do before someobody puts a stop to it?

I harbor no ill will toward NSM and hope that one day, after the Bill White problem is fixed, we can resume relations

Now, this is not the only thing White has shot his mouth off about in recent times. As Turner noted in that last statement, his online ranting against a rival neo-Nazi group saw members of the NSM have their arses kicked six ways to Tuesday – but he’s also been a busy boy pissing off every CI in America by cutting sick at them at every opportunity.

Quite a few NSM boneheads happen to be CI. This was the perfect opportunity to give White the boot – and Schoep took it.

See ya, Bill!

But how… how on earth did the founder of the NSM get shown the door? Although he had been running the line that it was just his wife that was into this Satan stuff, Herrington was a lot more involved than he was letting on. We’ll let Nicole Nichols from CAH take this baby home:

The young leader of the National Socialist Movement has been faced with a multitude of decisions lately and a lot of flack from his members.

As conflicting reports kept emerging from NSM headquarters regarding the number of members and units it was losing, Jeff Schoep remained eerily silent sending only a couple of messages out through trusted people. The elderly Wild Bill Hoff was calling for calm and unity and Richard Brunson was issuing scathing condemnations of Bill White.

Well, it really doesn’t appear that either calm or unity is going to be restored anytime soon.

Yesterday evening, Hal Turner broke into the Gordon Young show with breaking news stating that he had just been informed by NSM member Tim Bishop that Chairman Clifford Herrington had resigned. He stated that Bishop and Schoep had engaged in a three way conference call with Herrington where they confronted the Chairman with allegations of Satanism and pedophilia. The Chairman was asked to resign and when Herrington refused and got nasty, he was expelled from the group.

That was the initial report. However, the statement made today by Jeff Schoep is just a little bit different:

Comrades, “NSM Chairman Emeritis Herrington is currently retiring from his position, and will be stepping back from active duty, as he attends to some personal and family matters. On behalf of the Party, I would like to thank him for his many years of service to the NSM, and all the sacrifices he has made for us all during that time. He has been a tireless and valuable worker for the cause, and we have all learned alot from him over the years. “The Chairman has retired once before in 1993, and returned to the Party years later to assist us. Perhaps after his personal matters are squared away, we will see him again in the future.

“Hail Victory! Commander Schoep”

Clifford Herrington was supposedly confronted about his wife being a High Priestess and running a Satanic cult which preys on children and advocates group and perverted sex; his ties to this group; the fact that his wife is non-white by the NSM standards; and claims that he had been indicted for acts with a minor will have to take care of these “personal matters” and then all will be forgiven? He will be allowed to return? Why doesn’t this really surprise me?

For years now, Schoep and the NSM have been castigated for allowing John Snyder, a sex offender, to remain in that organization. At one point, Snyder disappeared and was on the most wanted list in the state of Indiana. It appears that Snyder is back among the rank and file.

Last night a message was posted on the VNN site from Herrington’s wife, Andrea/a..k.a. Maxine Deitrich. She claimed that in the 1990’s Jeff Schoep was homeless and destitute and that she and Clifford took him in and that he resided with them for several months. If her statement is factual, then it begs the question – how could Schoep not have known about the Satanism or the fact that the woman was non-white. Further, if he lived, as she said, with the Herrington’s and their three children, would he not have realized that one of her children is of Middle-Eastern lineage? Would he have us believe that he missed all this when living with the Herrington’s and he missed all of this for the last 13 years?

On the heels of the announcement that the Chairman had been removed, Tim Bishop asked that Michael Blevins, (VonBluvens) post the following announcement:


Col. Bishop at 8:00 pm EST time asked me to put the word out to all of our comrades that the difficult situation we have been experiencing with the Chairman’s wife is now over. He told me that the Chairman has been relieved of his duties in the NSM.

Colonel Bishop went further to say that those that have resigned over this situation are encouraged to come back to the NSM including myself (VONBLUVENS). He also asked me to rescind my resignation (and I have done so on our blog).

I would be more than happy to come back to the NSM and to resume my duties.



This opened up another big can of worms. Since VonBluves, the “Minister of NSM Radio” was going back to the fold, and since the invitation was extended to all, Bill White had a dilemma. He had been busily carving out a new niche for himself – one that would allow him to be in charge, what was he to do? He got his answer pretty fast. It seems the offer was meant for everyone but Bill White. And that, in Bill White’s eyes, was the last straw.

When this announcement came down, Bill went into high gear and offered to help Schoep “put the party back in order.” However, there were some conditions which had to be met before Schoep could expect Bill’s expertise:

…only on the conditions that other members implicated in the “Satan-gate” scandal be dismissed and that Schoep make other changes to repair the faults in the NSM organization.

White went on to claim that there had been other revelations about members in the NSM and that these things had to be dealt with:

* The revelation that NSM SS leader Richard Brunson, in the late 1980s, acted as a federal informer in two skinhead groups — the Rocky Mountain Skins and the Freikorps Skinheads — that his testimony led to the jailing of one Jesse Ferguson; and that he had donated white nationalist memorabilia to Jewish diversity organizations in a very public manner;

* The revelation that NSM member April Patterson, who had described herself as a Satanist, has had at least one child taken away from her under allegations of child abuse and neglect;

* The revelation that Jeff Schoep has allegedly been conducting a long standing with Patterson against his wife, Angela Foxworth Schoep, and that Patterson has alleged that the baby she is raising with John Snyder may be Schoeps’.

It’s always interesting to watch Bill spin-doctor events and even more fun to witness him trying to bloody the noses of other white nationalists and neo-Nazi’s. As narcissists have oft been called “ruthless fools,” I tend to believe that Bill White exemplifies that label. Bill, in the throes of a manic phase, fails to realize that he has alienated not only a sizeable number of racists – but a huge majority of them. He can’t see that because his narcissistic mania won’t allow such negativity to penetrate that fragile psyche. To do so would be to unleash the underlying demons of self-destruction.

What is really funny in all of this, however, is watching the attempts at manipulation that are taking place. In truth, not much has changed. The NSM thinks it has gotten rid of their problem – but they haven’t. If what Bill White says can be believed, the NSM still legally belongs to Clifford Herrington. And even if it doesn’t, Jeff Schoep has attempted to put a band-aid on a hemorrhage. He might have “retired” Herrington, but he has, in essence said, that “once everything quiets down and the feeble minds in the NSM forget this, Cliff will be back.”

VonBluvens doesn’t know where to light – he is just flying by the seat of his pants and looking for his puppet master. I don’t know where it will all end up – but one thing is for certain – it ain’t over by a long-shot.

And there you have it. How this will affect the unstoppable forward march of the vast hordes of the Australian NSM cell (Okay, just Carl Thompson – who has said he likes to end his day by sitting alone with a pistol in his lap reciting the “To be or not to be” soliliquoy from Hamlet) remains to be seen.

Fight dem back · 14 July 2006 · Discussion