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A few weeks ago, we received a phone call from a visible mobile phone number. The chap on the other end claimed to be “ex-PYL” and wanting to find out more information about us. Now, when someone is “ex” anything and in contact with a rival group, surely etiquette entails that the defector offers up information on their former mates before trying to extract anything from the people they are trying to buddy up with.

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Fight dem back · 22 December 2005 · Discussion

The Toongabbie Affair - uncut

You may remember a couple of weeks back we mooted the idea of a “reward” of sorts for a copy of a “rally” video featuring Jim Saleam’s Australia First/Patriotic Youth League brigade.

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Come on, you remember don’t you? The now retired “Proud_Infidel” made the following post on Scumfront back in November:

Over 20 people showed up to an Australia First rally in the Western Suburbs to protest the Howard Government’s new anti-terror laws with hundreds of leaflets being handed out to the public. Well done to all those who attended.

You will also remember that the FDB ambush of the Scumfront Victoria BBQ yielded the information that this rally did not actually take place and that the local council and the police stopped it from going ahead.

Hence, Infidel (again) lied through his teeth. Due to his retirement we can’t link to you his blog (he yanked it) where he and his mate, the now infamous Cinematographer of Cronulla, JN tried to keep their lie afloat.

Those who read the Telegraph today would have seen pics of JN, here’s a couple more:

Back to Infidel’s now defunct blog. We can’t link to it, but we can reproduce the text here. See, we’re smart cookies and we save everything:

Darp said…

Oh ..I nearly forgot to ask. How did Jim’s rally in “Sydney’s West” go a few weeks back?

You did the brief SF review didn’t you?

Gotta admit, we now effing clue about that one until the night before and “Sydney’s West” is a big place so we had to let it be.

Proud to be an Infidel said…

We handed out leaflets informing people about Howard’s anti-terror laws and their potential to impinge on free speech, alas it seems that Nettle’s demo in the city overshadowed us. :)

Darp said…

So would you call it a successful rally?

A few leaflets handed out to bewildered passers by?

Proud to be an Infidel said…

I thought so, we handed out a *lot* of leaflets, people are concerned about the scope of aspects of the anti-terror laws.

Proud to be an Infidel said…

A failure you say?, come now Matthew, one doesn’t need to thousands of long-haired benefit recipients marching up and down George street destroying public and private property make a protest.

Darp said…

But it didn’t actually happen did it?

“The man” cancelled the whole thing!

Why did you post false statements on SF regarding a “successful rally”?

Why did you continue to claim it was a successful rally in light of information we uncovered on the weekend that this ‘rally’ DID NOT GO AHEAD?

whiteJN said…

Did not go ahead? Then what the hell was I doing there for 2 hour’s and what’s all this footage I’ve got of.

whiteJN said…

Congratulations Mathew, After reading FDB today I can say you took it hook, line and sinker.
Misinformations a bitch aint it.

Note for future: Dont print stories based on hear say.

Proud to be an Infidel said…

I considered it a success because we were able to handout leaflets to inform people about the anti-terror laws, those people may have passed it on to friends, etc, the beauty of viral marketing eh?

Darp said…

James,

I wouldn’t say that we’ve ‘bitten hook line and sinker’. We merely published what the Vic BBQ guys said. We’re still waiting back for confirmation from Parra and Blacktown councils plus the police as to what really happened.

It’s a pretty stupid piece of disinfo if it is. It didn’t turn up any leaks and it made you all look like liars for claiming that your rally went ahead when it didn’t.

whiteJN said…

Never the less you don’t know what happened and It’s unlikely that the council or police can tell you either as none of them were there.
As for stupid, That’s writing up a story without confirmation of what really happened.

Bummer hey.

Darp said…

James,

On one hand we’ve got a big bunch of people from the WN community who say that this rally didn’t happen.

On the other hand we have YOU and infidel saying that it did. You SAY you have heaps of video footage.

Great.

Saying you do means jack shit. PRODUCING THE EVIDENCE is an altogether different thing though. If you can produce video or other photographic evidence (blur out faces) I know what Toongabbie looks like.

Put up or shut up?

Things went a tad quiet after that. As you would have seen on the very top link in this article, we decided to follow on from Val_Kyrie’s lead and offer a “reward” of sorts to anyone who could produce this mysterious video. After all, the video would prove once and for all whether or not this rally actually went ahead or whether the Australia First crowd were lying about it as they do about everything.

We got a couple of red herring emails which directed us to a fakie video again created by JN. This one was entitled “Toongabbie” but featured only James himself giving the camera the finger and screaming “f*ck you Darp!”.

Charming.

Anyway, in light of the current “every man for himself” atmosphere that is currently flooding through the Australian far right, we think it’s fair to say that we have been swamped with people offering us this video. We’re not all together sure what they want from us in return but we’re happy to take the vid. Here’s some stills:

As you can see from shot two, the rally DID NOT go ahead. JN and Infidel lied. The start of video features Jim Saleam interviewing Jeremy and stating clearly that their demo had been cancelled. The video also provided us with a completely fresh departure for Aaron. We’re more used to seeing him dressed like this:

So this Aaron character is the PYL rep at one rally and is holding up the Australia First Flag at another? You need any further proof that Aus First and the PYL are one and the same thing?

And to our anonymous source(s). Thanks for the video. It’s probably the most batshit boring thing we’ve ever seen but we appreciate the chagrin it must have caused you to offer it to us.

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Fight dem back · 21 December 2005 · Discussion

Diane Teasdale: Naive or a Liar?

From The Age:

…Mrs Teasdale denied that Australia First pursued neo-Nazi agendas but she admitted she did not know if radical elements had infiltrated the party.

“Whether those radical elements are in it I do not know, but those in the leadership positions are not. We are fairly straight-down-the-line middle Australia,” she said.

Come now, Mrs. Teasdale! Must we remind you of the sort of people who attend Australia First rallies?

Australia First

And of the violent, criminal history of Australia First’s biggest name?

We at FightDemBack wonder if Mrs. Teasdale is just incredibly naive, or if she is like the rest of her party, a terrible liar.

Fight dem back · 14 December 2005 · Discussion

I’d love to go for a rally outside now…

… THE SUNSHINE’S CALLING MY NAME. But then it got cancelled.

Hey there, kiddies. Remember the other day when we crashed the Stormfront Victoria BBQ?

Well, besides talking about such charming subjects as how they hope that somebody nukes Israel, and fun ways to torment homeless aboriginal people (Oh! How they laughed!), the lads also got down to talking about the STATE OF THE SCENE.

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For example, there was some discussion about Luke Connors, the Victorian representative of the Patriotic Youth League, and how he now has a policy of only recruiting factory workers, and has given up on students.

Young Troy suggested that this was because “university students ask too many hard questions.”

The lads weren’t too sure where Luke is supposed to study either.

Another thing they discussed was the recent successful Australia First rally in the Western suburbs of Sydney.

The first we heard of this gala event was when it was reported on the white supremacist message board Stormfront.

Successfull Rally in Western Suburbs.
Over 20 people showed up to an Australia First rally in the Western Suburbs to protest the Howard Government’s new anti-terror laws with hundreds of leaflets being handed out to the public. Well done to all those who attended.

On Proud To Be An Infidel’s all new shiny blog, we asked Proud Infidel for confirmation that the rally had been a success.

FDB’s Mat Henderson-Hau asked of him:

SO, would you call it a successfull rally ..a few leaflets handed out to bewildered passers by?

To which Jim Saleam’s latest recruit responded:

I thought so.

Successfull, eh?

Full of success, eh?

Eh? EH?

I’m rather afraid that it wasn’t.

You heard it here first, folks. The Australia First rally was not successful.

According to our mates down south, it didn’t happen at all. The Toongabbie Rally was cancelled “by the Jews.” (aka the Police and the Council)

We’ve contacted Parramatta and Blacktown councils, and are waiting for their representatives to get back to us.

If this is the case, it calls into question all of the other rallies that the PYL and Australia First claim to have successfully held, of which there is no photographic record. The PYL and Jim Saleam lying? I know, what a shock. The boys at the PYL have always been so dedicated to honesty… Whether it be the Volksfront thing, the Fortress incident, their links to the New Zealand National Front, several of their members also being in the openly nazi White Pride Coalition of Australia, their Newcastle skinhead patrols, the Newcastle race riots that only they had heard about… and so on, so on… an anomaly like this in such a perfect record of truth-telling is just flabbergasting!

We’re also told that a video exists of Jim Saleam interviewing PYL representative Aaron (or as one Victorian BBQer put it, “that boots and braces guy from FDB.”)

That’s right. Boots And Braces is an offical PYL representative.

More on this as it comes in. Over to Steve with the weather.

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Fight dem back · 17 November 2005 · Discussion

Laces & Braces & Blank-Lookin’ Faces

This is some free advice to the Patriotic Youth League and the Australia First Party.

If you get caught out doing something wrong, please… don’t lie about it. You’re really not any good at lying.

I think that’s something that’s been well established over this past year.

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At the recent PYL/AF protest in support of Andrew Fraser, one of the young boneheads took issue with the fact that we had pointed out that he wore red braces to the Sydney Forum.

I wear red braces because they make me look as beautiful as I feel.

In bonehead culture, red braces and laces mean that you (claim to) have drawn blood in the race war.

But at the protest, he was aghast. His feelings had been hurt.

He was no murderer!

He wore red braces “because he likes the colour.”

The reason he wore braces, he explained, was so that he wouldn’t look like a wigger (slang for “white nigger”) with his VERY heterosexual skin tight jeans hanging around his backside.

Erm, why not wear a belt?

That other shining example of the master race, retirement home vandal Ben Weerheym, also took issue with our ridiculous Nazi Colour Code allegations.

He wrote:

he takes issue with one of the activists and that he is wearing red braces - shock horror! As said by Henderson, if someone is wearing red braces, it supposedly means that the person has “drawn blood in the race war”. Huh? I think Henderson has been reading too much propaganda or perhaps he has watched too many Hollywood movies.

Well, that’s us told.

But what’s this?

Note to Kyle: The whole “I’m a tough guy” look is undercut by the presence of the lovely embroidered pillow cases in the background and the nice baby photo behind your head. The Pink Floyd (The Wall) t-shirt is a tad improper on you Kyle seen as The Wall is one long artistic diatribe against fascism. Its chief architect, Roger Waters is a noted anti-racist/anti-fascist.

Anyway, where were we? Oh yes - red suspenders boy.

Kyle Chapman, formerly fuhrer of the New Zealand National Front - arguably New Zealand’s best dressed skinhead gang, had something to say on this very subject not all that long ago:

White= White power/White Pride/Skinhead
Red = NS/National Front/Shed Blood
Blue = None political Punks and Skins (they get attacked by everyone so dont see it much)
Purple = Pagan, usualy anarchists and punk freaks and the skins who hang out with them
Yellow = no one wears them because they mean killed someone and who wants to say youve done that (especialy if you have!).
Pink = Gay (no one wears them because they will get bashed for doing it)
Green = Irish Republican

In the two tone days white laces ment black and white united. LOL, thats funny ah.

The strait lace comes from the fact that the first skinheads where british and in britain every working class person did their laces like that. In WW2 the crossed laces ment that you were a german spy. It is traditional to where strait laces to show british origins of the Skinhead Subculture.

That settles that. This isn’t the first porky that the PYL have told (We’re not nazis, Volksfront, Luke Connors “the Law student”, Eureka Spirit, Newcastle “riots”, Concerned Citizen’s Collective, Drew Fraser’s involvement - to name but a few), nor is it likely to be the last - but c’mon guys, why not give honesty a spin sometime? It’s a lot more fun than you might think.

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Cam Smith · 20 October 2005 · Discussion

With friends like these…

Before you get reading, download our nine meg video of the red suspenders debate.

Then read on.

If Professor Drew Fraser wasn’t already having a hard enough time convincing people that he wasn’t a far-right wackjob with neo-Nazi sympathies, then today’s little display outside Kirribilli House by Jim Saleam and his Australia First Party/Patriotic Youth League goons certainly didn’t help his cause any further.

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Saleam has kicked off a “Defend Professor Andrew Fraser” campaign. They took to the streets today by staging a demonstration outside the Australian Prime Minister’s residence.

A demonstration will be held in the park outside Kirribilli House, Kirribilli, on Saturday, October 8 at 3pm. It will call for freedom of speech for Professor Andrew Fraser.

This peaceful assembly to state public opposition to all thought-police legislation will be the small beginning of a nation-wide campaign against not only the Fraser case, but other violations of traditional Australian civil liberties.

We here at Fight dem back are not complaining one iota. We feel that volk sporting extremely short haircuts, boots, braces and swastika tattoos and rings are the type of people best suited to helping everyday Australians understand exactly what Drew Fraser stands for.

Note: Red suspenders and boot-laces indicate that the wearer has (or claims to have) drawn blood in the race war. White suspenders and braces indicate “white power”.

With Fraser spamming out requests for support to Stormfront and AMREN members, is it any wonder that the boys with extremely short haircuts come out to defend him?

The gang hung around for a good twenty minutes. Jim Saleam even made the effort to sidle up to Mat Henderson-Hau and whisper sweet nothings in his ear:

“You know we have collected the details of your supporters.”

Has he now?

We wonder what a man with a criminal past that includes shotgun attacks on people’s houses plans to do with such information.

Back to Mr Red Suspenders (as that video should have downloaded by now). Suspenders purchases at MYER? Way to contribute to the ZOG conspiracy bonehead. He says he needs suspenders to hold his jeans up or else they’ll hang around his knees like a ‘wigger’. Why not just do what most non-19th century Lancastrian mill workers do and wear a belt?

Either way, those jeans look tighter than Barry Gibb’s flares circa 1975 and don’t appear to be in danger of falling down anytime soon.

Fight dem back would like to point out that not all suspender-wearing skinheads are racists. Matter of fact, Australia and New Zealand possess strong ‘SHARP’ movements (Skinheads against racial prejudice). See Wiki for a good article on the different types of skins.

Interesting to note that like many other aspects of the far-right, skin subculture was not conceived of by the racists. The skin ‘look’ is actually a living example of race mixing as many of its elements are derived from the Jamaican dock workers of London’s east end in the 1960’s.

What, you think Ska music is a purely white phenomenon as well?

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Fight dem back · 8 October 2005 · Discussion

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The Toongabbie Affair - uncut

Diane Teasdale: Naive or a Liar?

I’d love to go for a rally outside now…

Laces & Braces & Blank-Lookin’ Faces

With friends like these…

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