Here at FDB we love a good Nazi on Nazi shitfight. There have been none better in recent times than this stellar barney over at Scumfront Downuner. Yep, it’s the shitfight we had to have, Baron Von Hund (”David Innes and associated dipshits) v Jim Saleam.

We’ll cut to the “good bit” first and then expound on some of the history later.

As a result of that SF thread linked above, a VERY interesting email has been forwarded to us.

David/Lilith,

I have with some reluctance, made a formal complaint to Don Black regarding the management of ‘Stormfront Downunder’.

Specifically, I have referred to the ‘Australia First Membership’ thread, its general content, items on it by David and the lack of proper moderation by Lilith.

I have requested specific actions be taken, including the deletion of the thread.

I must say to you both that I regard this thread as a serious provocation against all members of Australia First. I urged it be controlled right at the start and cannot escape the conclusion that it was placed there with negative intent, although I accept it soon went right out of control. It should then have been locked or deleted. That it was not, also suggests negative intent. If it was placed without proper thought and managed the same way - is just as bad.

Of course, one understands a discussion board is for free speech. However, in several threads over time, there has been extensive and serious misinformation placed against Australia First.

It seems to me that there has been a serious breach of rules, but also a failure of judgement. Stormfront is not for some contributors whose contributions are toilet-wall scribblings (these things should be struck out by Lilith), nor should it be ignored that the enemy takes full advantage of the intelligence-gathering opportunities the site offers. With the latter in mind, the Australia First Membership thread was a bonanza for media, anti racists and political police.

I must admit I was severely disappointed in you. For the record, the final post from me, with the references to churlish, girlish, toyish, boyish was no comment on either of you, but that it was interpreted this way, indicated over-sensitivity to the matters raised.

You will note too, that other than in generalities, I never reply to challenges put to me on Stormfront.

Given the management issue may now be under review, I suggest you take no further actions. I will stay off Stormfront until all this dies away.

Yours for Australia,
Jim S.

P.S. The matters here do not mean any change in the invitation to David to speak at the Sydney Forum. I believe in genuine free speech.

Interesting isn’t it?

So what has got Jim so pissed off? Well, if you peruse the thread in question you’ll see some fairly full-on attacks on Jim, his criminal history, his mysterious ethnicity and his perplexing habit of referring to anyone who questions his ethnicity as being either a troll, a ‘nutzi’ or both. Some highlights:

1. Lilith gives Jim 48 hours to prove his ethnicity.

2. Jim Perren balks at this suggestion:

My god what a circus. Who are the Nutzis now? Maybe we should DNA test all members. It is obvious to all that you are part of this agenda driven thread Lilith. Obviously you cannot stay neutral from your statements

DNA tests? What a top idea! If Pauline Hanson can be showed up as having Middle Eastern Heritage we’re quite sure that a guy (Jim Perren) who doesn’t even know his own racial lineage other than the possibility that his biological father might have been a ‘Greek’ merchant seaman would probably show up a fair bit of non-master race blood. As regards the other Jim, (Saleam) we can guarantee that a DNA test on him would not show up any Greek blood, but more on that later.

3. Ben Weerheym with one of his more astute observations:

jeez, the lefties will be eating this up with a spoon.

4. Baron absolutely going off about Jim. His heritage, his past, you name it.

6. Baron laying down the law to Jim as regards perceived dissing of his fly girl

WARNING: Don’t get too personal with this and start a campaign of defamation as you would like to do; I’m alot nastier than the people you have criticised in past. Unlike them, I have no problems taking about the trash. So be very careful how you speak about my wife…

Considering the amount of battles that Lilith has fought for Baron over the years, we think it’s rather sweet of him to return the favour.

I guess we may as well use this opportunity to help enlighten the Scumfront regulars as to Jim Saleam’s actual ethnic background. Whilst Baron Von Inness seems to have trouble with the basic spelling of his own ethnicity (on that thread he said “Anglo-Saxen”), he is reasonably correct as per Saleam’s ethnic origins. Saleam’s heritage is Arabic and his immediate parentage does include Lebanese and Syrian. Jim’s time-honoured tactic of dealing with the ethnicity question on the internet has been to ignore it and hope it goes away. In an old email to Darp Hau, Jim stated that his ethnicity was “Orthodox”. In person however, he likes to take every opportunity to set people straight by showing them some of his father’s old travel documents (circa latter Ottoman Empire). These documents which are said to have at different times included birth certificates, marriage certificates, passports etc. These documents are written in the cyrillic alphabet (as used by Orthodox Churches throughout Europe and the Middle East). Jim tries to fob these documents off as evidence of his Greek heritage as your average ignorant fucker of a racist isn’t really going to have the faintest clue what all those wierd squiggles mean, they just see the iconography of Greek Orthodox Christianity and presume the smarmy old geezer might just be telling the truth. Well, they’re too dumb to draw those threads themselves so Jim helps them along.

Now cos we as anti-racists have a knack of being smart and knowledgeable when it comes to different cultures and communities, we know that throughout Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, Egypt and Turkey there are plenty of pockets of Orthodox Christianity. These communities constitute some of the oldest converts to the cult of Jesus that there is. Now just because they adopted the Greek/Byzantine rites of worship this does not in any way change the fact that their ethnicity at all times remained Arabic.

So in essence, what we’re saying is that Jim Saleam’s heritage is Lebanese, his family were Orthodox Christians and Jim uses various old documentation in the cyrillic alphabet to try and pass himself off as Greek.

You all got that?

A very special thanks to the rather pissed off individual who sent us a copy of Saleam’s email as well.